Can You Stack Filters On A Camera

TyphoonTW • Senior Member • Posts: 1,484

Tin circular filters be stacked?

Dec 27, 2018

I know that stacking round filters tin can be less than ideal due to the increased possibility of having part of the forepart filter "inbound" the frame especially with UWA lenses.

My filter requirements are very moderate, ideally a single polarizer and a not variable ND filter, so I don't experience like investing a lot of coin into a lee/cokin system.

What I don't know is, are all circular filters threaded in a mode that allow more filters to be added? I'm looking to buy a 77mm b+west polarizer and a ND filter of the same size, simply I want to exist sure that for the occasional waterfall shot I'll be able to stack them.

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hotdog321 • Forum Pro • Posts: 21,092

Re: Can round filters be stacked?

TyphoonTW wrote:

I know that stacking circular filters can be less than ideal due to the increased possibility of having part of the front filter "inbound" the frame especially with UWA lenses.

My filter requirements are very moderate, ideally a single polarizer and a non variable ND filter, so I don't experience like investing a lot of money into a lee/cokin system.

What I don't know is, are all circular filters threaded in a way that allow more filters to be added? I'm looking to buy a 77mm b+westward polarizer and a ND filter of the aforementioned size, only I want to be sure that for the occasional waterfall shot I'll be able to stack them.

I can't speak for specific filters and usually don't advise it, but most circular filters are threaded on both sides and can be stacked.

As an aside, I use the thin ring filters to avert vignetting. Verify that the thin ring filter is threaded on both sides, however. A few can't be stacked, though my Nikon CPL can.

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crowley213 • Senior Member • Posts: 1,177

Re: Can circular filters be stacked?

TyphoonTW wrote:

I know that stacking circular filters can be less than ideal due to the increased possibility of having part of the front filter "inbound" the frame specially with UWA lenses.

Have a expect for slim filter versions, in case of B+W filters it'due south the XS-Pro Digital Mount series.

My filter requirements are very moderate, ideally a unmarried polarizer and a not variable ND filter, so I don't feel like investing a lot of money into a lee/cokin organization.

What I don't know is, are all circular filters threaded in a way that let more filters to be added? I'm looking to purchase a 77mm b+w polarizer and a ND filter of the same size, simply I want to be sure that for the occasional waterfall shot I'll be able to stack them.

Normally in that location is no trouble to stack screw in filters, just brand sure the brand you select has front threads. In case of B+Westward filters the XS-Pro serial is a slim filter with front thread while the Slim Line serial does not take front threads!

I used B+W filters for many years and they are actually good. Nevertheless I switched now to Breakthrough filters, they are at least every bit good and I similar the functionality of the CPL a little better. My B+Due west Kaeseman CPL got stuck after some time, means you barely tin can rotate it anymore. But maybe I just got a not so adept sample.

Finally, my recommendation would be a 6-stop ND, it's the most universal ND filter, specially for what you lot desire to achieve.

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TyphoonTW wrote:

I know that stacking round filters can be less than platonic due to the increased possibility of having office of the front filter "inbound" the frame especially with UWA lenses.

My filter requirements are very moderate, ideally a single polarizer and a non variable ND filter, then I don't feel like investing a lot of money into a lee/cokin system.

What I don't know is, are all circular filters threaded in a way that allow more filters to be added? I'm looking to purchase a 77mm b+w polarizer and a ND filter of the same size, but I want to exist sure that for the occasional waterfall shot I'll exist able to stack them.

Some of the ultra-wide and slim ring CPLs are "stepped" and/or take no front end threads.

Look carefully. Some manufacturers don't fifty-fifty mention information technology specifically.

Bing Grub • Senior Member • Posts: 2,567

Re: Can circular filters exist stacked?

Usually they can be stacked. Unless the filters don't have front threads, which I've never come across. When you make up one's mind to stack, make sure that the filter that is threaded onto the lens is threaded tighter than the second filter on the offset filter. This way, the two filters don't bind to each other, making separation super annoying.

You tin thread either the ND or the CPL on the lens commencement. Keep in mind if you thread the ND on first, you lot might non be able to meet the consequence the CPL is making depending on the low-cal levels and forcefulness of the ND. So you lot have to punch in the position of the CPL beforehand.

OTOH, if y'all thread the CPL on first, and then it spins when you lot thread the ND. Either way, yous accept to memorize the position of the CPL for that particular shot. This is one of the reasons why I use rectangular/square filters when I need to combine NDs and CPL and/or ND Grads.

Re: Can circular filters be stacked?

TyphoonTW wrote:

I know that stacking circular filters tin can be less than ideal due to the increased possibility of having role of the front filter "entering" the frame especially with UWA lenses.

My filter requirements are very moderate, ideally a single polarizer and a non variable ND filter, so I don't feel like investing a lot of money into a lee/cokin arrangement.

What I don't know is, are all circular filters threaded in a fashion that allow more filters to be added? I'm looking to buy a 77mm b+w polarizer and a ND filter of the aforementioned size, only I want to be sure that for the occasional waterfall shot I'll exist able to stack them.

FWIW, stacking a CPL with an ND8 is about my paw-held limit, even with IS and a monopod. I don't bother with anything stronger unless I intend to utilise a tripod. I utilize the ND8 for a lot of wide aperture close-ups with and without wink so I demand the ND8 anyway.

It helps keep my hiking gear to the absolute minimum, so they demand to exist the same size. And my bayonet hoods fit over them.

Re: Tin can circular filters be stacked?

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Keep in mind that digital cameras are peculiarly susceptible to lens flare because the sensor is flat and very reflective.

If yous identify a non-coated or poorly coated filter in front end of your lens it is like aligning ii mirrors and light will bounce back and forth between the apartment surfaces causing lots of lens flare. Every flat surface you lot place in front of your lens increases the chance of lens flare, and nigh filters accept two flat surfaces. CPLs have four flat surfaces. Stack filters and you keep increasing the number of flat surfaces and make the problem of lens flare worse.

That is why you want modern lenses and filters that accept multiple anti-reflection coatings, nano coatings, etc.

Use your lens shade if you lot tin to aid foreclose lens flare. This is hard or even impossible with some lenses and some filters, specially with CPLs since you lot demand to rotate the front element of the filter. Be prepared with a lid, ball cap, a blackness carte du jour, or any other type of flag to make sure that direct sunlight doesn't hitting the front of your filters.

If you already use CPSs I presume you know when to use them only for those who are interested this is a expert introduction on when to use CPLs.

Adorama Learning Center - Bryan Peterson - Polarizing a Snow Capped Volcano

For clear sunlight yous may prefer the results from using HDR or Luminosity Masking instead of using a CPL. For cutting through reflections nothing else can do the same job as a CPL.

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OP TyphoonTW • Senior Member • Posts: 1,484

Re: Can circular filters be stacked?

crowley213 wrote:

Unremarkably in that location is no problem to stack screw in filters, just make certain the brand y'all select has front end threads. In example of B+W filters the XS-Pro series is a slim filter with front end thread while the Slim Line serial does not have front end threads!

that's some great info ,I didn't know nearly it and couldn't discover it anywhere!

The polarizer I accept on my wishlist is Xs-Pro, while at my local store they don't have whatever Xs-Pro ND filter apart from the really expensive variable 1. I retrieve I can live with the non Xs-Pro ND filter and accept a tad chip of cropping in those rare situations where I need both filters at the aforementioned time.

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OP TyphoonTW • Senior Member • Posts: ane,484

Re: Can circular filters be stacked?

I've read some articles about the Breakthrough filters and they seem very interesting. I have some credit to apply at my local store though, so i'1000 express to what they take in stock...(can't complain too much though, since they accept all the high-finish B+West filters).

Planning to get the Xs Pro KSM polarizer filter and either the ND1000 or ND64 one. Since I need an ND only for long exposures of waterfalls/rivers/water in full general while using a tripod, i'll probably go with the ND1000.

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crowley213 • Senior Member • Posts: ane,177

Re: Can round filters be stacked?

TyphoonTW wrote:

I've read some manufactures about the Breakthrough filters and they seem very interesting. I have some credit to utilize at my local store though, so i'yard express to what they have in stock...(can't complain too much though, since they accept all the high-end B+W filters).

Planning to get the Xs Pro KSM polarizer filter and either the ND1000 or ND64 one. Since I need an ND but for long exposures of waterfalls/rivers/water in general while using a tripod, i'll probably go with the ND1000.

The XS Pro Kaeseman is definitely a high quality CPL, no doubt most that. I used one for years and cannot say annihilation negative about it in regards to image quality, at least based on my observations.

Withal I decided at present to switch to Quantum every bit the mechanical aspects of the B+Due west CPL gave me twice some problems. In the beginning the rotating band was besides loose, so I had the filter to transport to B+W and then they could fix information technology. Since some time it'southward the contrary, the ring is too stiff and volition barely motion. Everything not a big deal at all when yous have a adept dealer around, only for me downwards here in Mexico not so expert.

Also, the frame design of the Quantum is a trivial amend in my opinion, it's in general easier to rotate, merely maybe that'southward merely me.

In regards to the strength of the ND filter: While a ten-terminate ND may be the right solution to give you enough stops in actually bright daylight information technology is virtually likely too strong in the morning and late afternoon / evening. As you may know, likewise long exposures will cause sensor noise, about likely when your exposure time will exceed four-6 minutes. Shooting with the x-end in the gold hours can easily bring you above that time and even long exposure dissonance reduction cannot ready all that implied sensor noise. Other potential bug with such strong ND filters and really long exposures are color cast and degradation in sharpness.

Mayhap offset showtime with a 6-finish ND filter, the often recommended force for landscape photography, also when shooting waterfalls in normal weather condition.

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Re: Can circular filters be stacked?

TyphoonTW wrote:

I've read some articles about the Breakthrough filters and they seem very interesting. I take some credit to use at my local store though, so i'one thousand limited to what they have in stock...(can't complain too much though, since they have all the high-finish B+W filters).

Planning to become the Xs Pro KSM polarizer filter and either the ND1000 or ND64 one. Since I demand an ND only for long exposures of waterfalls/rivers/water in general while using a tripod, i'll probably go with the ND1000.

A ND-iii filter is good for mixed outdoor ambience light and flash portraiture where you desire to use wider apertures for a shallow depth of filed.

The ND-6 and ND-9 or ND-10 filters are the nigh used for waterfalls, etc.

I bought a ND-half-dozen and a ND-x filters. About a calendar month later I realized ND-three plus ND-6 equals ND-ix.

Don't expect the actual number of stops for the ND filter to exactly match the given value and expect information technology to cause a tint.

Meter off something pure white outdoors and shoot that affair at the measured exposure. The RGB channels of the white thing should read about 127/256 in most image editors or 50% in Lightroom.

Now, past changing the shutter speed, take a number of exposures at 1/3 stop increments with each filter starting with a 1-stop overexposure and ending with a 1-stop underexposure. Mensurate the white card in these examination shots to find out the real number of stops.

I went mode overboard measuring the number of stops of my filters merely here is my report, which includes ways to fix whatever tint.

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